The word team and crew are synonyms and mean команда in russian
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I would say "where is the crew" but let's wait for the natives.
daviesri
Senior Member
Where is the crew. Since "crew" is a single group.
If you were going to use "are" you would need to be talking about several crews as in "Where are the crews for all of these ships". Or, as previously said, you are looking for the individauls that make up the crew: "Where are the crew members".
Strider
Senior Member
In fact, there are a lot of words in English that are acceptable as a singular or as a plural. For example:
The government has decided / The government have decided.
In the first example we think of the government as a single entity, in the second we think of the members (ministers) of the government.
Other words like this are : army, audience, family, staff, team, etc.
I agree that 'crew' is usually a singular but if we are thinking of the crew members, the plural is OK.
*Cowgirl*
Senior Member
In fact, there are a lot of words in English that are acceptable as a singular or as a plural. For example:
The government has decided / The government have decided.
In the first example we think of the government as a single entity, in the second we think of the members (ministers) of the government.
Other words like this are : army, audience, family, staff, team, etc.
I agree that 'crew' is usually a singular but if we are thinking of the crew members, the plural is OK.
The government have decided isn't right. Government, like crew, is a collective noun .
Other examples would be, assembly, class, club, jury, etc.
If you were to say "the government officials have decided" that would be okay.
fenixpollo
moderator
If I have one pet peeve in English, this is it. It makes absolutely no sense to me to refer to a singular noun, such as team, in the plural ("Manchester United are a good team"). Pluralizing collective nouns sounds horrible -- like fingers on a chalk board.
*Cowgirl*
Senior Member
Pluralizing collective nouns sounds horrible -- like fingers on a chalk board.panjandrum
Lapsed Moderator
Big apology to US AE-speakers from us blackboard-squeakers
Sorry guys, but we are so accustomed to managing the nuances of both singular and plural with these collective nouns that we have no real way of explaining how or why we do it.
How do we know when the crew is, and when the crew are? The best I have been able to suggest is that it depends on whether we are thinking of the crew as a unit or as a set of individuals.
lingo95
New Member
I don't think pluralizing collective nouns sounds horrible, I just think it sounds British or Irish.panjandrum
Lapsed Moderator
I don't think pluralizing collective nouns sounds horrible, I just think it sounds British or Irish.And a very big welcome to lingo95.
Have a cup of tea and a pint of Guinness (virtual of course).
Such generosity of spirit deserves a reward
Speaking of rewards, I'd like to offer the same to fenixpollo for assembling the links. I must note that post for reference.
*Cowgirl*
Senior Member
Sorry guys, but we are so accustomed to managing the nuances of both singular and plural with these collective nouns that we have no real way of explaining how or why we do it.
How do we know when the crew is, and when the crew are? The best I have been able to suggest is that it depends on whether we are thinking of the crew as a unit or as a set of individuals.
Collective nouns always take the singular form of the verb.
The crew are . The crew is. The crews are. The crew members are.
baconsandwich
New Member
Collective nouns always take the singular form of the verb.
The crew are . The crew is. The crews are. The crew members are.
I disagree, but as lingo95 and panjandrum pointed out (and fenixpollo - 'scuse my ignorance there!), it's probably a British/Irish thing. If there were roadworks p) at the end of my road that had been there previously and they were being done by, say, the council, I might explain the situation by saying, "I don't believe it! The council are digging up that road again!", which sounds perfectly to me (if ticks can be used as adjectives )fenixpollo
moderator
Thanks, panj. I didn't mean to suggest that people who use plural verbs for collective nouns are irritating. just that this practice goes against my grammar programming brainwashing education.
I'll join you in that Guinness, if it's all right with you.
panjandrum
Lapsed Moderator
Collective nouns always take the singular form of the verb.In my enthusiasm to head for the flippant comment, I didn't make the point clearly enough that this is very definitely an American English / British English variation.
Your statement is correct for AE, but not for BE. As you will discover around here, there are many such differences - it helps to keep us all humble.
bartonig
Senior Member
Keeping to your original enquiry, British speakers say:
"Where's the crew?" (they don't say "Where is the crew?")
and
"Where are the crew?" (but the "where" and "are" are sounded as "where er" - the "er" being almost an afterthought and tucked in to the end of "Where")
Most speakers would say the former is correct, if asked. But, both forms are used but probably the former more so than the latter. Nobody stops to think if crew means a body of people or just one person.
panjandrum
Lapsed Moderator
I've been trying to think of sensible examples to explain the difference between these questions. Here is one such example.
Where is the crew?
There does not seem to be a crew on this boat.
Where are the crew?
I wonder which pub the crew members have gone to.
fenixpollo
moderator
The best I have been able to suggest is that it depends on whether we are thinking of the crew as a unit or as a set of individuals. I just heard an example of using both the singular and the plural verbs to refer to a collective noun:Oliver's army is here to stay
Oliver's army are on their way
And I would rather be anywhere else but here today
xnlover
New Member
I am editing a paper in which the author has written "The crew of the USS Freedom are accordingly required to bunk on board their vessel even when in port." I believe the use of the plural verb indicates a reference to "the individual members of the crew", thereby making the use of the plural rather than the singular verb correct and clear. Yes, one could write, "The crew. is. required to bunk," but "are" is not disruptive to an understanding of the sentence, especially since the later use of the word "their" in reference to "crew" emphasizes the plural nature of the use of "crew" here. It would sound odder to say, "The crew. is. required to bunk on board its vessel. "Parla
Member Emeritus
I agree, XNL. Or you could change it to "crew members . . . ".RM1(SS)
Senior Member
I am editing a paper in which the author has written "The crew of the USS Freedom are accordingly required to bunk on board their vessel even when in port." I believe the use of the plural verb indicates a reference to "the individual members of the crew", thereby making the use of the plural rather than the singular verb correct and clear. Yes, one could write, "The crew. is. required to bunk," but "are" is not disruptive to an understanding of the sentence, especially since the later use of the word "their" in reference to "crew" emphasizes the plural nature of the use of "crew" here. It would sound odder to say, "The crew. is. required to bunk on board its vessel. " I definitely think that "the crew are" sounds better here.Senior Member
For this BrE-speaker, it's clear that it needs to be "are", since the reference is to the individual members of the crew.
What intrigues me, though, is that Parla and RM1, both AmE-speakers, agree with me!
RM1(SS)
Senior Member
More AmE examples:
Note that the last pair of sentences quoted uses - in fine BrE fashion - a singular verb when referring to the crew as a unit, and a plural verb when referring to them as individuals.
I need your help: I cannot see the difference between these terms: team - squad - crew.
This question arised while talking about a pool of professionals involved in a task. We are facing a legal issue, in order to deal with this we have engineers, lawyers and patent attorneys working together each in his/her field.
In this case, which term do I have to use?
Let's suppose the sentence is: "the team/squad/crew dealing with this issue comprises engineers, lawyers and patent attorneys".
The context is not very formal, let's assume this sentence is part of an email that will be sent to some colleagues of mine.
Thank you in advance,
DonnyB
Sixties Mod
The word "team" is very commonly used nowadays in business, to refer to a group of people working together on a project or task of some sort.
While "squad" or "crew" could be used colloquially amongst themselves, I wouldn't personally use it in a business email (unless it was the firm's 'house style' to be particularly informal).
giginho
Senior Member
kentix
Senior Member
giginho
Senior Member
Thank you kentix.
For sake of argument: can you please tell me if there is any difference, generally speaking, between this three terms?
kentix
Senior Member
Squad is more often used for an athletic team or a military team. It generally implies some form of physical activity.
Crew is the specific word for the members who work on a boat or on an airplane or on other transportation. It can also be used more generally but in that usage, at least in the US, it's very casual. If you talk about your "crew" you're talking about your immediate circle of friends. It's almost slang in that usage.
Team means any group of people working together, whether it's a physical activity or a mental activity. It's very generic and is useable in many situations, including being appropriate for business situations.
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